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Question about Coronavirus source

Something I am NOT seeing is the origins of the wildlife suspected of carrying the disease

OK so the outbreaks  supposed to have come from a combo of Snake/Bat zoonotic crossover

Thats not unheard of, think Hendra crossing from Bats(flying foxes) in Aus, Hendra from Bats infects Horses via faeces or urine on fruit/grasses undertrees, and then from ill horses, to humans.

Hendra kills humans and horses ,but dogs produce antibodies and are ok.

Hendra WAS found in a Herpetology collection in Qld some yrs ago as well, they didnt say if the snakes were ok or died.

Nipah , amazingly appearing almost the same time as Hendra but in Asia,affects dogs pigs monkeys and humans. Also blamed on Bats as Carriers and it killed all the species.

So the question I really would like to see asked and answered BY those whos job it is to know..

is ,where did the snakes and bats IN the Wuhan Markets come from???

Because the originating source was probably rural trappers or breeders, who brought them into the city for sale.

Those sellers and the villages they come FROM  would be a high risk of outbreak/carriers ,but not ONE mention has been made of ANY rural deaths or illnesses and thats  more than  weird its downright suspicious.

If your’e an epidemiologist the original source is the PRIME interest to track down and halt. The Wuhan Market is a  Vector- but the  REAL SOURCE is being ignored

I see Chinas govt  requested that rural farmers continue to supply foods TO the major cities in lockdown, which is, obviously vital to prevent starvation and more panic.

But if the same  vendors  are  without /limited  health care or  enquiry into how healthy their villages/families are?

They  are banned from selling the bats and snakes and other wildlife now, but their homes,farms and transport vehicles were used to do so and  probably havent been destroyed(financial reasons obviously) or sterilized well enough- if at all- to ensure they’re safe for other foods.

For people living in poverty as many rural chinese appear to do then they arent going to be wasting a food source, but probably consuming it themselves as they lost sales.

Then, it appears to me at least, it’s a rather large risk to keep bringing possible new contamination with them.

Then too , is the possibility that  they have had milder forms of the coronavirus, some survived and would then be Prime sources of blood/tissue to develop a vaccine FROM.


I doubt there is anyone who doesn’t remember the charnel house the UK became when they had a few, very few..cases of FMD  a few years back.

Scenes from Dantes Inferno- misery and heartbreak as animals with no symptoms inc pets were killed “to save the uk” etc etc.

This was in spite of good veterinary advice to  the contrary, of such mass slaughter being necessary in a country where most animals WERE vaccinated, and good quarantine and practice could be maintained.

Today I found a report of a disease outbreak in Africa, its not FMD, but its a nasty..and I will  post separately on that one later:-)

However the page  I found that item on has a mass of reports on GLOBAL outbreaks of Foot and Mouth, and they go back to last year and before that, yet? there has been  little? or NO? reporting and certainly no over the top nationwide slaughter as in the UK event.Yes  culling but limited  events.

once again the company with the reports wont allow even a two word snip, so you are in for a lot of link clicks, sorry.

Believe IS worth doing, the saga is BIG  Global and bloody nasty.

There is a Conference being held in Thailand in a few days time , where they plan to announce request to worldwide Banks to supply funding for  eradication/vaccines etc.

OIE calls for bank support of FMD campaign

Rather a LOT too late.

The list of affected Countries so far is large and growing.

Russia for close to two years, seems to be the older treatable strain, but open to doubt..

New FMD strain found in Kyrgyzstan

Kazak, kyrgistan, and Russia in this block

New FMD strain threatens Middle East

CIS countries face FMD threat

Egyptian FMD outbreak requires “urgent action”, says FAO

Paraguay: animal health leader steps down after FMD outbreak

FMD outbreak confirmed in China

two events one in Dec’11 and one Jan 2012 in Pigs.Taiwan and then mainland. appears USA pig exports are rising steeply to China. gee?

Most people who know of  FMDx, know Vaccines were available.

However..the new strain not only is spreading widely it is Immune to the present vaccines “protection”, animals who were assumed to be safe are NOT! they are coming down with the new strain..but?..the PTB are still pushing immediate Vaccinations across nations, which is close to a  waste of time and money to try and combat this. The Pharmas will be loving it though.

Now the multibillion dollar question has to be HOW????

This  implied unknown variant, now named in some reports as SAT2, has managed to  spread so widely, you could excuse the  central  europe mid east as close enough for animals OR people  carrying contaminated dirt spores on shoes clothes etc.

That scenario falls over when that strain specifically, gets across an ocean or two to Sth American  lands. or it Should..if quarantine ie airports checking regions of travellers ie rural and footwear etc for dirt etc.

When so many ships transporting live animals or workers who have handled live animals on one trip then returning home etc arrive and  go back home, often inland etc..lets face it Quarantine on Docks seems to be a lot less  efficient, (ie Australia got crazy ants by containers).

Even so, so many areas, widely spread and reasonably close time frames  seems to make even that means seem a little less likely.

Contaminated vaccines? or someone using the GM  tampered vaccines?

or a planned bioweapon?

another aside:-)

On my post re flying pigs..I mentioned an odd event in a Piggery in Chile that wasn’t ringing true as to stated reasons for stench in the sties. however a mass die iff from FMD and a lot of smelly corpses would make more sense. Unconfirmed just surmising on it,but it is weird.Close enough geographically to be plausible anyway. Reading the Paraguay event made me consider it  as possible cause. The stated cause of the dead animals was workers leaving the plant and no food or water to some 500k pigs. Wether they died before or after may be a salient point, but I doubt it will be answered.


All the above reports say this is a NEW and Novel strain.

However looking for Vaccine info.I find this

FAO confirms spread of novel FMD strain to Gaza Strip
A novel strain of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD) has been detected in cattle in the Gaza Strip, confirming fears of the spread of the new variant, the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) said today. The FMD strain is new to the area, and animals haven’t acquired any resistance to it, the agency said. The FAO added that vaccines against the novel SAT2 virus are in short supply. In February the SAT2 variant was found in Egypt and Libya, and it was confirmed in the neighboring Gaza Strip area on Apr 19. Juan Lubroth, DVM, PhD, the FAO’s chief veterinary officer, said in a statement that the disease threatens Gulf countries, and perhaps southern and eastern Europe and beyond. He said limiting animal movement is the top priority for preventing the spread of the virus, along with heightened surveillance and quick outbreak detection and response. The FAO said the virus has also been detected in Bahrain, but only at a quarantine center. Israel has targeted herds along its southern border for vaccination to create a protective buffer zone, and the Gaza Strip will receive 20,000 doses to protect its cattle, with 40,000 doses as soon as possible targeting sheep and goats. The FAO and its partners are negotiating with producers and vaccine banks to find more vaccine sources.
May 2 FAO press release

and also this…

BVI and African company with a 5 strain vaccine, however reading the data it seems very shortlived and pretty impracticable for the majority of places where its occurring  to be used as required, repeat basic doses and  follow ups every 6mths.


————-Engaged readers will have noted the removal of the A for Anthrax word:-)

while   Anthrax and FMD can be soil borne, they are NOT the same disease as I wrongly had believed till corrected by a comment here, Many thanks to Cudden Happen:-)

I am posting a snip and link that Proves that Killing of all infected animals really is over the top however as they DO recover and while its nasty for them for a few days, it does not kill adult animals that often, it Can kill young as they dont have physical reserves to be able to not eat for  the time their mouth tongues are sore and ulcerated.Some may recover but become carriers, most do not, therefore testing for  continued presence, in suspect animals, may be a FAR more economical and sane method than simply going in a killing many thousands of animals.

NOT allowing CAFO operations where diseases, have the very best chance of raging through and mutating, due to sheer numbers of affected cases would also be smart.

Is there any treatment or cure?

No. Affected animals will recover. Vaccines can protect against the disease but do not necessarily prevent animals from being infected. Vaccination is used in many countries to control the disease in an endemic situation. In order for a country to regain FMD-free status and limit the economic impacts, it is important to eradicate the virus as quickly as possible. Movement controls and removal of infected animals (along with other complementary control measures such as cleaning and disinfection) are essential to eradicate this disease. Vaccination can be an important tool to assist in containing and eradicating FMD, but its use will have trade implications.

Who? is behind the Massive Worldwide Buyup of our Forests?

This is a bit Aussie centric, but then theres a UK and USA linkup I think may have some  bearing on it all.

Today the Sth Australian  news is about the buyup proposed to be approved by Private UNnamed interests of the SA forests.

Last few weeks theres been a similar event happening in the UK a huge amount of old forestry to be privatised, no names again..

now I got a CDC email toaday, aside from the political views the people behind the doings are worth some note.

its the RBS royal bank of scotland…who happen to be broke and bailed out, doing the SA advisory.

how odd?

then unrelated  source I come across a corp that has bought almost All of Oregons forests to use for?

heres the real interesting bit!

they plan to chip and use for Fuels! biofuels from woodsources.

so the wood we would use as renewable home  building and other sustainable  ,non polluting , un like petrochem plastics etc, would be processed for fuel instead?

so excuse the  length but I am adding the emails contents .

see if you think its a possible correct answer to the sudden interest.

first the adelaide news.…

then the cdc
itizens Electoral Council of Australia
Media Release  8th of February 2011

Craig Isherwood‚ National Secretary
PO Box 376‚ COBURG‚ VIC 3058


SA Government to crush forestry communities for British Empire banks

The South Australian Government’s plan to privatise up to 110 years’ worth of state forestry rotations which will annihilate the forestry communities in the south-east of the state is being enacted on behalf of the British Empire’s bankrupt Inter-Alpha Group of Banks, charged Citizens Electoral Council leader Craig Isherwood today.

“The Inter-Alpha Group is on a global looting spree to prop up their failed monetary system, and the state government, directed by leading Inter-Alpha bank The Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), is giving them the state’s forestry wealth to plunder,” Mr Isherwood said.

The RBS is one of the world’s leading privatisation outfits, which in the guise of “advisers” is being paid handsomely to direct the privatisation of SA Forestry; typically, its directives are hidden from the public behind the scam of “commercial in confidence”, but they are understood to involve multiple options, including the full privatisation of SA Forestry.

Mr Isherwood ridiculed the Government’s reasons for privatisation: “The Government’s argument that South Australia needs to smash forestry communities to fix up its finances is a sick con. First, hasn’t this moronic government learnt anything from the global financial crisis? The very same international credit rating agencies which decide if South Australia is AAA-rated, are the ones which rated trillions of dollars of toxic derivatives such as CDOs [collateralised debt obligations] that financed subprime mortgages, also as AAA! The Government wants people to swallow the idea that local timber communities should be decimated so the state can earn a worthless score on a piece of paper.

“Secondly, what about The Royal Bank of Scotland’s finances? IT IS BANKRUPT! It’s only still standing because it was nationalised by the British government in the global meltdown following the collapse of Lehman Brothers in late 2008.

“And as events in Europe prove, the so-called global financial crisis is far from over. The entire Inter-Alpha Group of Banks, of which RBS is a leading member, is in meltdown, which is causing the crises in Ireland, Spain, Greece, Portugal and Italy, and threatens to collapse the euro, the EU, and the whole trans-Atlantic monetary system.”

He continued, “As the American physical economist Lyndon LaRouche has exposed, the Inter-Alpha Group is the new British Empire, formed in 1971 by Lord Jacob Rothschild to ‘globalise’ the world’s financial system, i.e. to strip away any national obstacles to the City of London’s domination of the financial systems of all national economies.

“To prop up their system now that 40 years of unbridled financial looting has sent the world bankrupt, this criminal cartel of banks is dictating to governments to impose austerity measures on their populations, such as slashing funding to healthcare and essential services, and privatisations, that free up more money to be sucked into the banks.”

Mr Isherwood pointed out that The Royal Bank of Scotland is currently dictating privatisations all over Australasia. It is a joint lead manager of Anna Bligh’s asset fire sale in Queensland, the biggest privatisation spree since Jeff Kennett gutted Victoria in the 1990s, and it is heavily involved in the pernicious form of privatisation known as Public-Private Partnerships, in which governments carry all of the risk and private banks reap the profits, in Victoria, NSW, Queensland, NT, WA, as well as New Zealand.

Liberate the nation from the British Empire

Mr Isherwood called on the concerned residents who are protesting the SA Forests sale to join the CEC’s fight to free Australia from the British system of private money dictating government policy that is destroying the entire country:

“Not just South Australia, but the entire nation is being systematically and deliberately stripped of the essential industries and infrastructure that enables Australia as a nation-state to look after the physical needs of its people,” he explained.

“A combination of British free trade policies and British ‘green’ policies have smashed the family farmers who guarantee the nation’s food security [see below]; British free trade tariff cuts have smashed the nation’s manufacturing industries, especially in South Australia; British privatisation policies have looted the nation’s power, water and transport infrastructure; British-designed economic rationalism policies (as pioneered by Margaret Thatcher) have starved hospitals and essential services of adequate funding, which is mass-killing people.”

The intention is genocide, he said.

“Australia is being targeted for depopulation,” he went on. “The fact that the privatisation will decimate the timber economy of the Southeast and depopulate the region is deliberate. It is the same issue in the Murray-Darling Basin: City of London-controlled private banks, and the radical green movement personally founded by Prince Philip to “solve overpopulation”, are directing the Murray-Darling Basin Authority’s drive to smash the national food bowl, to not just depopulate the rural areas, but to depopulate the entire nation, from its current 23 million down to Wentworth Group member and World Wide Fund for Nature trustee Professor Tim Flannery’s preferred level of 5-6 million people.” [See The New Citizen, Dec. 2010/Jan. 2011.]

The CEC National secretary concluded, “The CEC’s mission is to fight for the principle of the common good of people, and free Australia from this system. We are fighting to return to the policies that developed Australia into the once-powerful industrial economy we were, for which the patriots of ‘old Labor’ and great leaders such as John ‘Black Jack’ McEwen so tirelessly fought: government-owned national and state banks, long-term investment in nation-building infrastructure, and a vision for Australia’s economic development.

then the unrelated email from a investment group in aus.

Greasing the Wheels of Oil Production
by Byron King

There’s a common theme to my efforts on behalf of my Outstanding Investments subscribers. Yes, I like companies that control real resources like oil, natural gas, copper, gold, silver, etc. I look for the basic resource value. But beyond these basics, I look for companies that control resources and have the technology to extract them and add value.

A company like Venoco (NYSE:VQ) is just one intriguing example. Venoco is applying rock-fracturing technology to California’s Monterey Shale. If the company accomplishes what it aims to do – increase oil recovery from shale – there’s the strong potential for Venoco to transform its shale acreage into a recoverable billion-barrel oil resource.

Or look at Talisman (NYSE:TLM). Here’s a company that’s not just leading the charge to fracture shale formations for the shale gas, but also working with South African refiner Sasol to turn “stranded,” low- value natural gas into high-value liquid fuel. In other words, Talisman is working to add value at the upstream stage and capture that value for its bottom line – and, of course, for the shareholders.

Over and over in Outstanding Investments, I have highlighted resource technology companies like Schlumberger (NYSE:SLB), Halliburton (NYSE:HAL) and Baker Hughes (NYSE:BHI).

These global oil field service giants provide the essential technological foundations of modern-day energy extraction. If any of these three companies simply vanished overnight, the world energy system would start to break down by the following morning. Without their technology – and their corporate ability to integrate systems of systems – the world would quickly revert to an energy state of the 1850s or so.

I should add that you can’t just pigeonhole these guys. It’s way too glib to say that Schlumberger is a great wireline company, Halliburton is a great well cementing company and Baker Hughes is a great drill bit company.

Yes, each statement is true, as far as it goes. But each company also offers a full line of energy-development technology, with the process thinking and systems management to make it happen.

Beyond just the extraction phase, you need to think in terms of upgrading the products into something else – product transformation. For example, I’ve held Weyerhaeuser (NYSE:WY) in the Outstanding Investments portfolio for a couple of years. No, it’s NOT that I’m playing on the possibility of a housing recovery, although that would doubtless be good for a “tree growing company” like Weyerhaeuser.

It’s more that I like Weyerhaeuser because it controls large swaths of biomass – that is, “trees” and all the other stuff that comes from growing and harvesting trees. I mean lumber, of course, plus bark, chips, sawdust and everything else that comes out of those vast swaths of forestland up in Washington, Oregon, etc.

So Weyerhaeuser controls biomass – but now what? Weyerhaeuser is partnered with no less than oil giant Chevron to develop – “leapfrog” is more like it – new technology to turn this biomass into something that a refinery can process. This is far beyond the primitive idea of using corn for ethanol. Really, burn your food and deplete the agricultural soil just for motor fuel? (That’s why I call it “deathanol”).

So Weyerhaeuser has the biomass – the fundamental raw material. Chevron has the refining and marketing power. Now all they need is the correct technology to turn wood chips, etc., into a feedstock for refining fuel. It’s going to happen in a big way, and likely within five years or so.

So when you’re looking around for hi-tech investments, don’t forget to look around for the world’s cutting-edge energy service companies.

Byron King
For Daily Reckoning Australia

for the Uk you can go to the guardian or daily mail or any paper to see the uproar over there.
I could be casting a looong bowshot, but I think I may be correct as to the long term motives behind this sudden upsurge of interest.

I am also told a(possibly Canadian?? company has Purchased large areas of Tasmanias forestry too