PPR in Goats and Sheep in Congo/Hendra similarities?

This one is sure not common,

Goat and sheep disease causes crisis in Congo

Peste des Petit Ruminant..

another name is…Goat plague.

Because I happen to like animals a lot, and was mystified on this one, I went for a look see out of curiousity.

What Idiscovered has me doing some thinking on the VERY oddness of the surge in MORBILLI Viruses, and Paramyxo disease outbreaks in the last few years.

I can add the  previously unknown Paramyxo that has appeared in  Pigeons in Victoria, and now NSW and some wild birds found dead/ill as well, though not many- to this list of outta the blue never seens as well. Funny how the PTB are advising using the Newcastle vaccine as a May? be useful preventative..when that same vaccine also has bluetongue again  in its mix.

The fact that Measles and Distemper are also Paramyxo , the fact that theres a Huge push to revaccinate troops especially, as well as  civilians for Measles, when the measles vaccines do not offer the  real immunity that actually Having the Native version would offer, and the true incidence of problems with REAL Measles are in truth very low incident wise.

It’s especially pertinent to  Australian events with the HENDRA outbreaks  this year killing Horses, once again, and putting owners, other pets on their property and any poor Veterinarians treating them at personal risk. and the risk is high !

Death  is quite possible and HAS happened.

In Australia the Hendra is blamed solely on transmission BY Fruit Bats aka Flying foxes.

Arboreal nusiances that  eat fruit and nectar, fine if they as native critters kept to native foods, however they do not, and they seem to be rather happy to live right in central suburbia in their huge colonies, making a lot of noise and crapping and peeing all over everything under them.

We have them  colonising a central Botanic Garden and also living in a NSW schools lunch shed.

This places visitors to said gardens and ALL children and adults at that school at a massive risk of become the next fatality of Hendra.

We also have a vociferous cluster of senseless ultra green people who keep blocking any moves to remove by culling the colonies placing many people and animals at risk.

Yes they ARE a Native Species, thats true.

However they are in HUGE numbers and are NOT Threatened, complete eradication of colonies IN suburbia would hardly make a dent in their numbers.. selective area culling in rural areas where horses are kept would also not cause them to become extinct.

Hendra

and Nipah that killed people in an Asian outbreak, and caused a large number of pigs to be killed to halt the spread if it there, are  in the Paramyxo/Morbilli virus genres

Rather curious how they appeared very close  in time, in distant nations..Totally unknown before..slight difference in  Nipah, again blamed on bats..

Extremely curious that  theres a link to  Bluetongue disease, in the MERK vaccine that was a CANINE targeted sales item, and had a very sudden weekend recall at the Exact time that the Hendra outbreak occurred.. Their own web pages ADMIT that that vaccine killed Dogs. They fail to mention how many, across how many nations and if? they even had the decency to admit and  compensate owners or treat victims that may? have survived..there’s NO mention beyond passing references.

With that companies prior history with other Vaccine issues I doubt anything much was done past recall.

Sidenote: Theres a link on the FMD page to a Merial company Sth African, BVI, making the FMD vaccines.and they also do rinderpest. used widely.

PPR misdiagnosed? as rinderpest, so who wasn’t testing but assuming?

How many assumed Rinderpest issues in EU etc were maybe PPR?

How close is the supposedly new? Schmallenberg virus to it I wonder?

That company is tied in at a few years distance,  with   a company once in Aus that shut down here and offshored to? yeah Sth Africa, via the usual convoluted tangle of  buyups takeovers etc etc.

Even more worth taking some note is the fact that a certain  vaccine was based  with LIVE  Bluetongue, and used widely, then very suddenly recalled, just as the first Aussie victim of Hendra,  Vic Rail, and a large number of his horses who died as well occured in Aus!

Exceptionally odd as Aus does’nt Have Bluetongue and allowing a vaccine using any part of that to be even allowed IN the country let alone used in canines and other species at all is  nothing short of crazy!

They can Never guarantee that ALL the virus is actually  totally inactive ie. live virus weakened but NOT dead.  Still Used here for Distemper in Dogs but inactivated

(which is why POLIO vaccine recipients then GET POLIO as evidenced and proven recently in multiple 3rd world nations being pushed?forced to  vaccinate kids)

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/biosecurity/ag-biosec/anim-disease/ppr.html

Agent

Peste des petits ruminants (PPR), also known as goat plague, is caused by a paramyxovirus of the Morbillivirus genus. It was first described in 1942 in Cote d’Ivoire, West Africa (see References: Dhar 2002) and is closely related to rinderpest virus, canine distemper virus, and human measles virus. The virus has the following characteristics (see References: OIE 2002):

  • May survive at 60C for 60 minutes
  • Stable from pH 4.0 to 10.0
  • Killed by alcohol, ether, and detergents as well as by most disinfectants (eg, phenol, sodium hydroxide)
  • Long survival time in chilled and frozen tissues
  • ============================================

Transmission

For PPR to spread, close contact between infected and susceptible animals is needed (see References: Ozkul 2002). There are several means of transmission between animals (see References: Saliki 2008):

  • Inhalation of aerosols produced by sneezing and coughing of infected animals
    • Outbreaks are more frequent during the rainy season or the dry, cold season (see References: OIE 2002).
  • Direct contact with ocular, nasal, or oral secretions
  • Direct contact with feces
  • Fomites such as bedding, water, and feed troughs
  • No carrier state is known to exist

Occurrence

PPR has been found in parts of sub-Saharan Africa for several decades and in the Middle East and southern Asia since 1993. It has been reported in Sudan, Kenya, Uganda, and Ethiopia. It was first reported in southern India in 1987. The Arabian Peninsula, the Middle East, and the rest of the Indian Subcontinent reported PPR incidents during 1993-1995. The disease has remained endemic in these areas. It has also occurred in Turkey (1996), Iraq (2000), Iran (1994), Bangladesh (1993 and 2000), and Nepal (1995) (see References: Dhar 2002).

  • In India, PPR was first confirmed in March 1987 in sheep suspected of having rinderpest. It is now believed that many outbreaks in India previously attributed to rinderpest were actually PPR. The virus was isolated four more times by 1992, and major epidemics occurred in the state of Andhra Pradesh in 1994-1995 and 1997-1998 (see References: Taylor 2002).
  • In Africa and Asia, the disease is particularly devastating, as these countries often use small ruminants as components of agricultural food production (see References: EMPRES 1999).

I hope you noted the  bolded fragment?

NO CARRIER KNOWN

so? if it does NOT have a known carrier to infect the first animal? how does it magically appear I have to ask.

Aw Hell! how come they haven’t though about BATS???that DO carry Paramyxo and DO live in caves etc in the areas where the goats etc happen to run as well??

Or maybe? they need to try and find that ONE genus of Midge as in EU:-)

No Ones explained EVER how Bats get it…maybe the base carrier worldwide is actually MIDGES?

Tied in with this is the fact that an Aussie lass went to Sth Africa for reasons rather UNspecified, and lo and behold finds that HENDRA is Highly prevalent IN Sth African Bat species.Though the Paramyxo Morbillis DO seem to be having an amazing global upsurge..

Her radio report I managed to be lucky to hear also failed  utterly to  state why? they went TO africa, and also what??? DNA was found IN those infected African bat colonies.One colony  which happened to be living ON the roof areas of a large hospital there.

I wondered why they were’nt looking in regions closer to home where possible transmission by trade would be far more probable. ie bats stowed away on ships, short journey, whereas  boat via Sth Africa would have em starving to death before landing.

They also have NO Tracking or even it seems knowledge of Hendra/ Nipah as a source of Illness in Humans there, the excuse given was they get so many meningococcal diseases anyway they dont check!

You could also bet and make money that NO horse deaths are examined or documented either.

There is NO explanation as to how a disease of Fruit bats  although mammals, manages to specifically infect..so far as we are told? ONLY horses, who then manage to change? or transmit unchanged? to humans, that’s also a gaping black hole in info given to us..

Also passing strange they happened to be onto Bats so very fast as the vector?

The other VERY lousy info lack never mentions if our Brumbies get infected, no reports of mass horse deaths APART from Vaccinated pets /racehorses so far, in years.

How come?

Also NO reports of wether its transmissable to cattle  or other species ..

ONE Dog has had it, recovered and produced antibodies to it, OUTside of a lab I noted in a Aus Govt document…which means they HAVE managed to infect Dogs in their labs!

They euthanased that poor Dog.

Recent outbreak, some two weeks back mentions a pet dog showing a weak positive and being retested. Media here has basically Dropped reporting on this…why?

I would love tp know what Vaccines were given to both those dogs and the rest of our Aus hounds..Theres a range of makers, so records are required to know what batch and what Maker.

It’s been a roundabout Digression 🙂 but the strangeness, the closely related viral types etc all seem to have some interconnections..when you start to  drag it into a pile.

Of course it may just be a big steaming pile too..thats up to you to read and do some thinking on.

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